There is an ungodly movement that is mixing the holy things of God, with profane and even demonic doctrines, by many who teach the 'Word/Faith/prosperity" gospel. Greed, pride and licentiousness are rampant for most in this movement. Some of these leaders think that every word that they "proclaim" (and I believe in proclaiming in faith and in the authentic spiritual gifts but only if it is truly from the Lord and only by the leading of His Spirit and in alignment with His Word!) is from God and cannot be questioned. Those who practice this Chritianized shamanism, often claim to have the same apostate position of "infallibility," that the Pope also falsely claims to have? (ex: Check out all of the false prophecies of Benny Hinn) It is no coincidence that the source of most of these perverse "doctrines" is called "papa" by his idolatrous devotees (he appears in a video below) and that he stole most of his "revelations" word for word from a New Age occultist by the name of E W Kenyon! YES, the Faith Movement is operating in and practicing OCCULT doctrines! IN JESUS NAME, OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE! The real, pure gospel is much more powerful. They are perverting the Gospel of Jesus in order to profit themselves, for which they have become militantly self-entitled. In Jesus name I prophetically warn this entire movement that they are practicing the same OCCULT sins that Aaron's sons comitted before God in the Holy of Holies when they offered up profane and "strange fire" before the Lord our God:
"And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered strange fire before the LORD, which he commanded them not. 10:2And there went out fire from the LORD, and devoured them, and they died before the LORD. Leviticus 10:1,2.
If you need a New Testament parallel; remember Ananias and Saphira in Acts 5 and how they lied to God and paid the ultimate price for trying to rob God? Those who read this have been warned and called to repentance. Do so now, before God demands that you pay such a price.
What constitutes "strange fire"? Barking like dogs and making other wild animal sounds, indulging and manifesting evil spirits that include drunkenness and lunacy, manufacturing tongues and counterfeiting spiritual gifts, preaching the prosperity gospel and demonic doctrines, all are a slap in God's face and He is about to bring about intensive judgment upon those who do such things.- especially as we draw closer to the end of the church age and approach the threshold of the Old Testament type of God's judgment that will be made manifest during the 70th week (the Great Tribulation)! The worst of these "Faith" adepts become fierce mercenaries because they are practicing a type of witchcraft... charismatic witchcraft. The real Jesus and His power, is much more awesome than are apostate prosperity teachings. Jesus has promised to make us rich, RICH in HIS SPIRIT... RICH FOR ETERNITY!
It is possible to teach powerfully on many subjects and yet be completely off on a few others. Just like David, even God's most anointed can entertain compromise and make severe mistakes, although intense pride and licentiousness keeps many in this movement from being able to admit their mistakes. I won't completely disregard a Christian because they believe in some doctrinally non-essential things that are wrong or that I disagree with (but I will point out gross idolatry and call people to repentance AS GOD LEADS ME). If God expected us to be 100% perfect in all we say or believe, He couldn't have anything to do with any of us, because we all still sin and have some error in our lives and perhaps even in our doctrines to some degree. But God in His mercy will systematically expose these sins and errors so that we can dwell in Him, walk with Him and be of full service to Him. It is how we react to the conviction of His Spirit that will determine how deep our walk can be. We MUST obey His voice when He reveals an errant belief or sin that we are practicing, even entrenched in. If we ignore God's conviction, we are without excuse and God will withdraw Himself to a certain degree if we don't repent. The Lord "earnestly rewards those who sincerely seek HIM.
The worst assault against the Gospel in the greater evangelical church is being carried out by counterfeit Pentecostals in what is known as the "Word of Faith Movement." It represents one of the worst perversions of the Gospel, and has derailed and ship-wrecked many who were formerly Biblically and spiritually grounded in the faith. The Faith Movement has instituted the Simonization (Simon the magician sought to buy God's power!) of the Gospel as it seeks and even worships supernatural manifestations. By primarily seeking God's power instead of seeking God Himself, they have fallen into gross, un-biblical dogmas, doctrines, and practices, as Benny Hinn and others have bewitched them into believing that God is not present unless there is a "supernatural" manifestation, which they are more than happy to manufacture or conjure. A major evangelical response to the abuses found in the "Faith Movement" is an almost complete allergy to the authentic work of the Spirit of God. In most evangelical churches the Spirit of God has been quenched and is not welcome.Most evangelical churches are so afraid now of the counterfiet manifestations that they demonize the authentic spiritual gifts and maintain control in an ungodly way, effectively smothering the work of God and His Spirit. A spirit of control or as we call it, a 'spirit of Pharaoh' ("control freaks") rules many churches. Many churches have reduced the Gospel to some dry, self-help infomercial void of all deep spiritual authenticity, regeneration and personal meaning. They are brainwashing millions to accept a "positive only gospel" only that tickles people's ears with what they love to hear: how to be "successful, rich, and blessed." The "gospel" that many evangelical churches now espouse is a thinly veiled Gnosticism; a mind-over-matter, Spirit-less "gospel," oriented to attract the masses to a religious bandwagon void of genuine Biblical and Spiritual regeneration. Their use and understanding of the Word is shallow as they merely go through the motions. Many of these churches are so afraid to offend "seekers" that they limit, and some even effectually ban (in some churches) Biblical quotations and references. They have no understanding of verses like 2 Corinthians 3:6, in which Paul makes it clear that the Spirit of God makes His written Word come alive in us, supernaturally transforming our lives, but we must first hear the Word:
Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. Romans 10:17
You can believe the entire letter of the law and the Gospel (even the demons believe and tremble) but if the Word is not made alive (quickened) in your heart (soul, spirit, conscience) by God's Spirit through Faith in what He says, you are not born-again, and cannot have a deep personal, spiritual relationship with Jesus! Many in the greater evangelical church are merely POSING as Christians. (If you have been convicted by this, repent of your phoniness, ask God to lead you in repentance, and seek Jesus with your whole heart NOW!) The Lord Himself said: "seek and you shall find, (HIM) knock and the door shall be opened unto you". The Lord "earnestly rewards those who seek HIM."
The authentic Christian existence is NOT a relationship in which we boss God around and take license to practice extra-biblical dogmas and faith formulas. In the name of "faith" many proclaim every selfish desire that they can vainly imagine, (positive confession) as practiced by the name-it-and-claim-it, "Faith Movement" adepts. The devil is all too happy and eager to "bless" some of these with a "success" that leads them further and further away from the real Jesus as they become more and more power hungry. They also teach that "negative confession" (saying things we don't really mean like "I wish I were dead" etc.) and everything else that we say has power to bless or destroy. There is a certain amount of truth to this and Jesus taught about it but their movement has taken it to dangerous extremes. The majority of Faith Movement adepts become spiritually shipwrecked and bankrupt as they selfishly seek ungodly gain by giving foolishly to rich, phony evangelists who promise them that they will receive back many times what they give to them. If you are "giving to get," you have forsaken God.
Large portions of the greater Evangelical church have been seduced by worldly affluence and extravagance, deluded and deceived by errant and shallow knowledge of the Word, and partially destroyed by doctrines inspired by demons. The Lord is raising up devoted followers who are willing to pay the great price to lovingly proclaim the Truth and call the church to repentance. This web site is an open call to repentance and to return to Biblical orthodoxy, loving abandon, adoration, and obedience to Jesus. Jesus is not coming for a filthy, sleeping bride! Some are clean, ready, and in love with the Bridegroom. Are you?
"First of all it is the rotten seed that is being preached by covetous Shepherds. This is known as the PROSPERITY GOSPEL. This is one of the greatest reproaches that the Church of Jesus Christ ever perpetrated since Christ. This perverted gospel is poisoning multitudes - even in China, Africa and all over the world. It is an American gospel invented and spread by rich American evangelists and pastors. Rich!... "This is going to become a "love-trap". You will hear this: "We love everybody. It doesn't matter what you preach. It doesn't matter if you are in prosperity. It doesn't matter what your gospel is - or anything else. God is love. Let us all just get together and embrace one another." How can two walk together unless they be agreed. How can you walk with those when you don't agree with the unscriptural practices, you can not. That is a love trap. They say, "don’t condemn anybody. Don't judge anybody." That is not what the Bible says. It says that we are to judge righteous judgment. Reprove and rebuke with all longsuffering. I am not on a soapbox; I am on a Rock. God is trying to save you, Church."
(From David Wilkerson's transcribed sermon:"The Reproach of the Solemn Assembly.")
IS THIS REALLY WHAT GOD HAD IN MIND WHEN HE SAID TO BE FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT?? HAGIN AND COPELAND ACTING DRUNK:
Allot of "strange fire" is being offered up these days by religious imposters– men who arrogantly prance around and proclaim great swelling lies and who are offering up "strange fire" before God. The sons of Aaron, under the instruction of Moses and Aaron, were the first priests of the temple. They had just been anointed as priests but one day, they decided to offer unholy incense to God– to bring "strange fire" before His presence. These two sons were killed instantly as they brought "profane fire" before the Lord. God is not pleased and will not receive spiritual offerings that are impure or profane. We must not mix the holy things of God with worldly and fleshly indulgences. I prophesy and warn these modern prophets of Baal that the time is quickly approaching when they will no longer be able to get away with their prostitution of God's word and perverted offerings and money fests. Judgment is coming to their house and it is in love that I warn them (I wouldn’t bother telling them if I didn’t love them and sense that they were in danger). Remember that judgment ALWAYS comes first to the House of the Lord! (".... But Lord we commanded demons in your name and healed in your name...surely you know us????...DEPART FROM ME FOR I NEVER KNEW YOU!!!")
'STRANGE FIRE' = FALSE ANOINTING, WHICH LEADS TO EVERY PERVERSION AND INDULGENCE KNOWN TO MAN! Why is so much perversion being found in the WOF movement and even in the regular evangelical churches? This video documents the presence of 'TEMPLE PROSTITUTES' now operating in some of these FALSE ANOINTING/ WOF ministries, who have been given over to their wanton lusts:
I have found one of the most apostate examples of a "new revelational doctrine," in David Wilkerson's exposing message, "The Reproach of the Solemn Assembly." He reports of a Prosperity "Gospel" Evangelist, proclaiming that "[Christians] shouldn't give to poor people, only to anointed people, if they wanted to receive 100 fold returns on their investment." This quickly caused the deceived listeners, to run on stage and literally stuff money into his pockets. He proclaimed that "even if it were the last five dollars of a poor old retiree; [he] would take it!" If you agree with this kind of apostasy, you have been BLINDED and BRAINWASHED by a demon spirit. This is ANTICHRIST DOCTRINE! This is SPIRITUAL FORNICATION, because they actually twist God's word to "legitimize" their LIES! This man actually believes that it is possible to open your own “anointing franchise.”
God has quickened the following verse to my heart and wants me to proclaim to the church that it pertains expressly to this last day’s church: “IF MY PEOPLE WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME, SHALL HUMBLE THEMSELVES AND PRAY AND SEEK MY FACE, AND TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS (REPENT), THEN WILL I HEAR FROM HEAVEN AND WILL FORGIVE THEIR SIN AND HEAL THEIR LAND!” 2 Chronicles 7:14
God has given me a glimpse of His future response to an intensive time of heart-rending repentance falling on millions of people at once. God's response will be the final fulfillment of the outpouring of His Spirit, grace, mercy and love that will be more overwhelming than anything that we can now imagine, “for it will be as at the first, just like the day of Pentecost says the Lord!” Though I sense that this latter rain has been sprinkling in different places for many years, I believe that this greatest outpouring will cascade down during the Tribulation, especially upon the remnant of Israel that receives Jesus. Yes, we are experiencing some localized deluges, but I sense that it is nothing compared to what is going to happen and will intensify! While God was ressurecting Israel, He also began pouring Himself out this century, upon people who were hungry and thirsty for the real Jesus of the Bible! The rushing mighty wind and power of His Spirit would be manifested today even more, if men weren't seeking manifestations rather than seeking God Himself. God says, "Taste and see that the Lord is good," God doesn't say, "lust for God's wealth and covet His power!"
Unless you are grounded in God's word, you will be deceived. The deceptions and phony manifestations are rampant today and many have been completely fooled because they have strayed from the pure word of God and have raised every emotional "experience," to have even greater authority than scripture. Many have neglected the word and have become easily deceived because they have not been truly abiding in Christ. Like some of their ancient forbearers, they got dependent on their "priest" (pastor) to spoon feed them milk and pabulum instead of diving into the rich meat of God's word themselves. The effect has been a massive "falling away from the truth," as prophesied by the Apostle Paul in 1Thess. 2:3. For those who disagree that this applies to the church of this hour, ponder this: "NOW THE SPIRIT EXPRESSLY SAYS THAT IN THE LATTER TIMES SOME WILL DEPART FROM THE FAITH, GIVING HEED TO DECEIVING SPIRITS AND DOCTRINES OF DEMONS, SPEAKING LIES IN HYPOCRISY, HAVING THEIR OWN CONSCIENCE SEARED WITH A HOT IRON." (1Tim. 4:1,2). For some of these who were formerly close to God, are now in free fall, as they absorb more and more unbiblical, "new revelations." Some, are coming out of and repenting of their Faith Movement doctrines, and are being fully restored. Others have grown so fond of their worship “experiences” and prophetic giftings that they are fixated upon them instead of Jesus. Remember that it is possible to make an idol out of anything! It is possible even to worship, worship and to get so enamored with “the feeling” that one can experience during worship, that IT becomes an idolized focus. I am certainly NOT discouraging anointed, heartfelt, expressive worship but the Lord must always be the recipient and focus of our loving worship- NOT the way it makes us “feel.”
Biblical and spiritual discernment is absolutely necessary today, although we must never disregard or condemn teachers that aren't 100% to our personal likes. On points of major difference, or concern, we are compelled to ask them questions and we may have to "reprove, rebuke or exhort" them (if so led by the Spirit) IN LOVE! When SOME infer that if you don't have wealth and status, you don't have God, they are in dangerously gross error. There have been some other teachings and doctrines from some teachers in this movement that bear further examination as well.
I AM NOT ATTACKING CHRISTIANS IN THE WORD/FAITH MOVEMENT, though I am calling them all to repentance from dangerous these dangerous doctrines. I AM WEEPING OVER THE CURRENT STATE OF THE CHURCH! We must NEVER put our faith in "faith." If our faith is in some "faith formula" or some "universal law" of faith that "works regardless if we are Christians or not," we have been deceived! OUR FAITH MUST BE IN CHRIST ALONE AND OUR PRAYER REQUESTS AND PROCLAMATIONS MUST BE RIGHTEOUS NOT SELFISH AND FLESHLY! It is possible to worship and idolize ANYTHING above Christ– even "faith." It is only our faith IN CHRIST, that saves us. Faith by itself does not save– it is only when we have put our faith, IN CHRIST! Any other kind of faith is a counterfeit and dangerously WICKED.
Some of these leaders so lust for the adulation that comes from being recognized and validated by others, that they idolize being on “the cutting edge of the NEW revelation of what God is doing.” Now, God definitely is always doing a new work but we can become so fixated on “being on the cutting edge of what God is doing,” and focusing on “new word,” that we neglect the established, incomparable word of God! Many, who place INORDINATE emphasis and focus upon new prophetic word, will often neglect finding if it lines up with the great preponderance of scripture. There are others that are idolizing miraculous manifestations and now will only recognize and follow ministries where the miraculous is the focus. Don’t misunderstand, Jesus certainly still performs miracles but there are many that are deceived by counterfeits because they so badly want to see and experience “manifestations.” Some of these adepts take great license to believe that whatever they can imagine, is what they should proclaim in faith. (We should only proclaim in faith [speak to the mountain] what the Holy Spirit has led us to proclaim in faith. If we are simply proclaiming our own "vain imaginations," we are not being led by God's anointing at all– there is a major difference! There is a major difference between speaking the word of the Lord as led by His anointing, (Holy Spirit at work on or through us = Anointing; 1John 2:20,27 Walking in the Spirit and being used by God through His Anointing is synonymous! Though God's Spirit is in every born again believer, we are not always 'in the Spirit.' God desires for us to constantly walk in His Anointing but this varies according to faith and obedience of the individual) and trying to create our own vain reality.
When humans insist upon altering reality by their own thoughts or actions of the flesh, the demonic realm is often very eager to oblige them with counterfeit results. This is also called "witchcraft." The use of shamanism is being practiced in some "Christian" circles, which utilizes "visualization" as part of the healing or "bringing into existence." There is also a major difference between God giving us a vision of what and how to pray for someone, (word of wisdom or knowledge) and taking it upon ourselves to just visualize it done. We must not try to minister this way, without God's anointing, who shows us the way and also does the work.
Other ministries over accentuate the gifts of God and make speaking in tongues (“tongues” can also become an idol) a mandatory rite of passage for every believer and the only sign that one has received the baptism. There is no scripture that says we must all speak in tongues. We are NEVER to focus on the manifestations (they will happen) or what we can "get" from God; we MUST ONLY focus on the Manifestor! We must seek His presence– not idolize and lust for His goodies. There are many in this movement who want God's power but really don't want the real God! There are many who want to use God for their own benefit... just like Simon the magician.
What I discern and I have personally experienced, is that right in the midst of ALL of God's most powerful movements, there are pretenders and charlatans (Judas is the ultimate example). In the case of the Word of Faith/ Prosperity gospel, the movement is actually led by thoroughly deceived men who attract God's anointed into a trap with powerful, yet twisted and mesmerizing, emotional speeches. Strange antics, shouting and screaming, are being mistaken for anointing. The devil specializes in misleading God's very elect by creating his counterfeits and by introducing "doctrines of demons." There are however, a few in this movement that have not embraced all of the strange doctrines, who are humble, loving, completely abandoned, and empowered by Jesus to do His works and even greater. There are also arrogant imposters who think that they can conger up God's power as they please, for their own purposes. Some act just like Simon the magician, who wanted to purchase a franchise of God's anointing and power for his own selfish purposes. Many others in this movement are like Ananias and Saphira, and we all know what happened to them. For most in this movement, it's a matter of deception by degree. Some have been completely brainwashed and others are entertaining only bits and pieces of bad doctrine. The danger for the slightly deceived disciple is that once the camel has gotten his nose in under the tent, it may not be long before he is completely in. Perhaps the most insidious effect of this counterfeit gospel, is the fact that it's abuses turn many away from wanting the deepest possible impartation of God's Spirit because the Faith movement and Pentecostalism SEEM to be synonymous, but THEY AREN'T! Is this false gospel a primary mission of Lucifer's, to discourage and derail immature Christians from seeking the real power of God's anointing and presence? Is it a "preemptive strike" to defuse the true move of God...is it a calculated ploy of the devil who easily preys upon men's greed?
What I see happening in this movement, is that some are merely going through the motions and have learned the same "lingo" of the heavily anointed ministries, but are only ambitious "wanna be's." Some of them have very little of the character of Christ in themselves and have forgone sitting at the Master's feet for pursuing ungodly gain. This type is driven by selfish ambition. The flashy, fierce, flamboyancy that identifies many of this type is soulish in nature, which may appeal to the spiritually shallow, biblically ignorant and emotionally unbalanced but doesn't minister at all to the spirit. Many of these men want their converts to follow THEM and hang on their every word. They are not transparent shepherds through whom you always see Jesus but rather they have become like egomaniacal rock stars, some that demand that your every thought or "vision" must be "in submission" to their rule. That's called slavery and "submission" to a dictator. A good shepherd always directs you to THE TRUE SHEPHERD, not into idolizing the undershepherd and then into spiritual slavery. WAKE UP BRIDE, a leader doesn't have to proclaim that he's a "god" if his every action screams it. Many of these leaders are so cocky and so full of themselves and are so idolized by their "flocks," that they begin to act more like eccentric, despotic rulers, (PHARAOHS) rather than servants of the living God. WE MUST NOT PUT ANYONE ON A PEDESTAL! TRUE SERVANTS OF GOD WILL NOT ACCEPT HOMAGE OR ADULATION, THEY WILL BE LOVING, HUMBLE AND SIMPLE.
Some in the faith movement, (small percentage) have become war-like and will declare “war” upon anyone who crosses or "criticizes" them (I've heard some leaders of this movement pronounce death upon certain critics and their families! Gee... whatever happened to “turn the other cheek” and “love your enemies...pray for those who persecute you...” This strange reaction to criticism stems from their selfish and delusional application of errant “Dominion theology” that justifies fighting with those who try to thwart their “kingdom.” They have totally convinced themselves that THEY are personally ushering in God’s kingdom and can use UN Christian, combative tactics, while “fighting the good fight.” Why aren’t these superior, “anointed,” Christians acting more like Jesus and responding to “criticism” with love instead of hate?). The blinding, religious spirit that controls some of them is very similar to the violent spirit that controls all-star wrestlers!
Another discernment that I have found to be true of several of the top Word of Faith leaders, is a penchant towards taking the Lord's name in vain, often right in front of thousands of people. The fact that they don't know that proclaiming God's name as a vain exclamation, i.e.; "my G-d," my L-rd," "great G-d Almighty," etc, especially in the forceful manner in which they do it, is taking the Lord's name in vain.
On the EXTREME FRINGE of this type of deceiver, they are driven by the need to dominate and control. They take extreme license in every area and particularly lust for wealth. They hate their "enemies" and the worst kind of spiritual pride and blind arrogance can completely possess this kind of adept. The very worst of these are merely religious con men. They get filled with delusions of grandeur and believe that every vain imagination that they have is a "word" from God. They get manipulative and project their brand of "spiritual correctness" so forcefully, that they are actually practicing charismatic witchcraft (I've seen this firsthand). The EXTREME prosperity gospel adept projects a worldly, self deserving narcissism that intensifies as they indulge the strange religious spirit that they have invited in. God never intended for His children to live in worldly decadence like self-indulgent pagans. "To whom much is given, much is expected," and when God's leaders begin to lose their focus on Jesus and follow vanity and perversions of His word, God will turn them over to a reprobate mind, if that is what they desire. God will even allow men to gain great wealth, if that is what they really want, instead of God. When men who have tasted of the divine sweetness of God suddenly start drinking from polluted cisterns, God will give them over to their own machinations, all the while hoping that they will return and repent, just like the prodigal son.
The very worst of these have exchanged preaching the power of the cross and God's glory, for spewing "hype, methods, gimmicks, manipulation and control." You will find very little of the real fruits of the Spirit in them but rather an ungodly intensity that lashes out at others who dare cross them. This extreme fringe is actually moving in the perverted and unclean spirit of Babylon but it can also move intermittently on a few great men of God who otherwise preach the real gospel. The temptation is very great because the cornerstone of their twisted, wicked doctrines is the belief that getting money (prosperity) means that they're godly, even though the Bible CLEARLY says that such men are: "men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, WHO SUPPOSE THAT GODLINESS IS A MEANS OF GAIN. FROM SUCH WITHDRAW YOURSELF...FOR THOSE WHO DESIRE TO BE RICH FALL INTO TEMPTATION AND A SNARE, AND INTO MANY FOOLISH AND HARMFUL LUSTS WHICH DROWN MEN IN DESTRUCTION AND PERDITION. FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY IS A ROOT OF ALL KINDS OF EVIL, FOR WHICH SOME HAVE STRAYED FROM THE FAITH IN THEIR GREEDINESS, AND PIERCED THEMSELVES THROUGH WITH MANY SORROWS. 1 TIM. 6:5-10.
"Lawless, or "licentious," is the Lord's own words for their kind of behavior. "I agonized when I read the heretical quotes of the dozen or so top leaders of this movement, almost all of them have at one time told hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions, via TV and tapes) of believers at a time, that they were "Christ on this earth," or some similar statement. COLLECTIVELY, born again followers of Jesus are the body of Christ on this earth, BUT EVEN THE COLLECTIVE BODY IS NOT CHRIST (FOR CHRIST IS OUR HEAD) AND NO ONE INDIVIDUALLY IS CHRIST, EXCEPT OUR LORD JESUS! I've seen several quotes and heard their own mouths speak various abominable swelling lies and heresies, while interjecting select bits of the real gospel. One leader says that "man was created in the God class!" Others have proclaimed at the top of their lungs that "Christians are little gods- little christs." Though it is possible to reflect His glory and be filled with His presence, it is an incredible jump to say that we are "little gods." This is an ungodly, apostate, New Age teaching, not a godly one.
This religious spirit is so powerful that many great men of God fear speaking against it. They fear reprisals, they fear losing income, they fear offending people, they fear the intense, evil attacks that some of these powerful and rich ministries perpetrate against anyone who comes against their evil doctrines. Many of these men pay homage to these apostate teachers because they are afraid of them and because they seem to be so popular. WAKE UP PREACHERS! I have no choice but to proclaim the truth because I fear not pleasing my God much more, than upsetting a few decieved compromisers.
I discern that the religious spirit that infects many of these adepts is actually intensifying as it is being exposed, which is EXACTLY what a demon spirit does when it comes under attack. Expect the leaders under the influence of this spirit to twist and distort scripture at an exponential fury, as God exposes their apostate doctrines and mode of operation. I just heard one such militant prosperity teacher, OBSCENELY DISTORT the scriptures from James 5, which warn Christians AGAINST "heaping up treasures in the last days," to convincing them that they needed to send THEM MORE MONEY:
" Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you! 2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are moth-eaten. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded, and their corrosion will be a witness against you and will eat your flesh like fire. YOU HAVE HEAPED UP TREASURES IN THE LAST DAYS. 4 Indeed the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields which you kept back by fraud, cry out; and the cries of the reapers have reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth. 5 YOU HAVE LIVED ON THE EARTH IN PLEASURE AND LUXURY; YOU HAVE FATTENED YOUR HEARTS AS IN THE DAY OF SLAUGHTER. James 5:1-5
Another one of the dangerous teachings of the major leaders in the Word/Faith movement that absolutely belittles Christ, is their doctrine that says that Jesus "died spiritually" on the cross– that He had to "go to hell" and was "born again in hell for us." If you truly believe that, please realize that if Jesus had "died spiritually," ALL of creation would have disintegrated at that moment, for He is the force that holds our universe together! JESUS IS THE BEGINNING AND THE END OF ALL THINGS! JESUS IS GOD! ALL OF THE FULLNESS (of God) DWELLS IN CHRIST BODILY (Colossians 2) Yes, I believe in the Trinity, but the bible says that Jesus IS the "EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS (GOD'S) LIKENESS!" Jesus NEVER, EVER "died spiritually!" This belief actually denies the very divine nature of Jesus. In fact, it is an antichrst doctrine because it denies the very doctrine of Christ, which is that God came in the flesh. "Deicide," (killing God) is not possible. If God was ever killed spiritually, all life as we know it would evaporate because Jesus is the force who holds ALL things together! Oh, they could kill His body, but they COULD NOT kill His Spirit! The second that Christ died, He was in His Father's arms. The proof of this is found in the loving word that He spoke to the thief next to Him: "today thou shalt be WITH ME in paradise!" Did Jesus lie to him? Though Jesus' body lay in the ground (“sheol” [not hell]) for three days, His Spirit soared to be with His Father! They negate the work that Jesus did on the cross as being complete and obviously don't know AT ALL, what Jesus was declaring while agonizing on the cross for them, when He cried out: "IT IS FINISHED!"
At the insidious core of this "Jesus died spiritually" doctrine, is the false belief that "God was the biggest failure of all time." (Kenneth Copeland) MY JESUS HAS NEVER FAILED at ANYTHING! Calling Jesus a "failure" of any sort because He was WILLINGLY crucified, is to entirely miss the reason of why God WILLINGLY layed down His life for us. THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN THIS EVIL DOCTRINE, HAVE BEEN SPIRITUALLY BLINDED AND DECEIVED! Those who believe in this particular doctrine, are no longer serving the Lord Jesus Christ of the Bible, they have become antichrist because they deny the most important mission of what Jesus completed upon the cross! What some Word/faith teachers want to do is make Jesus less special, while elevating themselves to some sort of "god status." Only an antichrist spirit would want to demote Jesus like that. Though we have God's presence within us, WE ARE NOT GOD! Some of these teachers were openly proclaiming that they weren't just being transformed into the image of Christ, but that they were Christ. I have seen many quotes where these powerful men claim to be "little gods." If you agree with this theology then you have been drastically deceived. Operating fully in this doctrine may bring you all sorts of worldly “power” but it will not be the power of the Holy Ghost! I'm weeping for those formerly powerful Christians that have totally bought into these apostate doctrines of demons.
While writing and studying about the origins of the "Latter Rain"/ Manifest Sons of God/ Word of Faith Movement, it became clear to me that although there are some good and godly people who associate with it, or are at the fringes of it, the major headship is teaching several dangerous and heretical doctrines. Though I believe that God can move anywhere and that God especially loves to move right in the devil's face, I began to see just how dangerous this movement is. I believe that there is a real Latter Rain of Jesus and that there is also a close counterfeit. The devil has tried to preempt the real move of the Holy Spirit in these final days but God cannot be stopped! The real gusher will probably commence after the Rapture, when millions who thought that they knew God, will suddenly realize that they were left behind and begin to cry out in repentance. God will also pour Himself out upon the remnant of Israel, the 144,000 Jews who will receive Jesus during the Tribulation. The Pre-trib Rapture happens to be another doctrine that many in the Faith Movement no longer believe in, at least not in the immenency of His coming for us. Though it is not a doctrine vital for salvation, many of them have dumped the Pre-tribulation Rapture teaching, for a post-Tribulation Rapture and now believe that the church will have to suffer through God's wrath during the Tribulation, so that we might gain “dominion over the earth for Christ!” God has PROMISED that He "HAS NOT APPOINTED US FOR HIS WRATH", (1Thess. 5:9) which is exactly what the Tribulation will be. Many Faith Movement leaders believe that they must "take over the world for Christ before He can come"– that they will "incarnate" Christ in this world on some grand scale (then perhaps Pat Robertson will be president?– not in our lifetime!). It's no wonder that the leaders of this movement aren’t longing to be with Jesus– they're living fat and sassy right here and now! They don't need the real Jesus– they need a "jesus" of their own making– so they’ve developed "a different gospel."
I PROCLAIM IN JESUS NAME THAT THIS GOLDEN CALF THAT CALLS ITSELF THE "PROSPERITY GOSPEL," WILL BE FULLY EXPOSED AND GORED FOR THE SPIRITUAL PERVERSION THAT IT IS. Most of the modern church has become just like apostate Israel before Moses came down to proclaim judgment- when God destroyed a portion of them. I WARN EVERYONE IN THIS "MOVEMENT" TO REPENT OF YOUR WHOREDOMS BECAUSE JESUS IS COMING SOON! YOU HAVE BEEN THOROUGHLY WARNED AND CALLED TO REPENTANCE! YOU ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE!
BIBLICAL PROPHETIC WARNINGS OF DANGEROUS ENDTIME APOSTACIES:
“But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner not even to eat with such a person. For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? DO YOU NOT JUDGE THOSE WHO ARE INSIDE? But those who are outside God judges. Therefore "put away from yourselves the evil person." (1 Cor. 5:11-13).
"For I have not shunned to declare to you the whole counsel of God."Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood."For I know this, THAT AFTER MY DEPARTURE, SAVAGE WOLVES WILL COME IN AMONG YOU, NOT SPARING THE FLOCK. "Also FROM AMONG YOURSELVES MEN WILL RISE UP, SPEAKING PERVERSE THINGS, TO DRAW AWAY THE DISCIPLES AFTER THEMSELVES. "Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I DID NOT CEASE TO WARN EVERYONE NIGHT AND DAY WITH TEARS." "So now, brethren, I commend you to God and to the word of His grace, which is able to build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified. "I HAVE COVETED NO ONE’S SILVER OR GOLD OR GOLD APPAREL. "Yes, you yourselves know that these hands have provided for my necessities, and for those who were with me. "I have shown you in every way, by laboring like this, that YOU MUST SUPPORT THE WEAK. And remember the words of the Lord Jesus, that He said, 'IT IS MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE.' "And when he had said these things, he knelt down and prayed with them all. Then they all wept freely, and fell on Paul's neck and kissed him, sorrowing most of all for the words which he spoke, that they would see his face no more. And they accompanied him to the ship. (Acts 20:27-38)
"¶Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. "You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? "Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. "A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. "Therefore by their fruits you will know them. "¶Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' (Matt. 7:15-22)
“Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern. For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame who set their mind on earthly things. For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,” (Phil. 3:18-20)
The Lord is calling His remnant church to "come out of her My people." The Lord is warning the leaders of the Word of Faith/ “New Wave prophetic” Movement about their sins, false doctrine and false prophecies. They are reacting defensively by verbally stoning and destroying His prophets that dare to speak the real word of the Lord. Recently, one famous leader actually "cursed" anyone who comes against "his" ministry in front of thousands of people. This same leader proclaimed of a certain critic, that the Holy Ghost would "take his head off." The leader of the Brownsville revival, prophesied that this same "critic," would die within 90 days but then openly repented on the internet, for "prophesying" death over him, only after 60 days had passed. Another famous leader "commanded" a "Holy Ghost hit," on the same man. ("You have condemned, you have murdered the just; (through their words and in hearts) he does not resist you" James 5:6) The Lord has called me to proclaim to this wicked leadership that their hour is nearly up– judgment is at the door! The Lord has revealed to many, that the leaders of this apostate movement are comparable to ancient, apostate Israel. Though they know the only right and holy Way, they have chosen to fall away (apostasia) from the the truth which they once walked in or believed. I shuddered when the Lord showed me the direct comparison with ancient Israel, which was prophesied by the prophet Jeremiah, and I shook again when He called me to write this down and publish it. Though this prophecy of Jeremiah's was originally delivered to Israel, the Lord is now applying it to much of modern Christendom: "3 O Lord, are not Your eyes on the truth? You have stricken them, But they have not grieved; You have consumed them, But they have refused to receive correction. They have made their faces harder than rock; They have refused to return... 20 "¶Declare this in the house of Jacob And proclaim it in Judah, saying, 21 'Hear this now, O foolish people, Without understanding, Who have eyes and see not, And who have ears and hear not: 22 Do you not fear Me?' says the Lord. 'Will you not tremble at My presence... 23 But this people has a defiant and rebellious heart; They have revolted and departed. 24 They do not say in their heart, "Let us now fear the Lord our God, Who gives rain, both the former and the latter, in its season. He reserves for us the appointed weeks of the harvest." 25 Your iniquities have turned these things away, And your sins have withheld good from you. 26 'For among My people are found wicked men; They lie in wait as one who sets snares; They set a trap; They catch men. 27 AS A CAGE IS FULL OF BIRDS, SO THEIR HOUSES ARE FULL OF DECEIT. THEREFORE THEY HAVE BECOME GREAT AND GROWN RICH. 28 THEY HAVE GROWN FAT, THEY ARE SLEEK; YES, THEY SURPASS THE DEEDS OF THE WICKED; They do not plead the cause, The cause of the fatherless; YET THEY PROSPER, And the right of the needy they do not defend. 29 Shall I not punish them for these things?' says the Lord. 'Shall I not avenge Myself on such a nation as this?' 30 "¶An astonishing and horrible thing Has been committed in the land: 31 THE PROPHETS PROPHESY FALSELY, AND THE PRIESTS RULE BY THEIR OWN POWER; AND MY PEOPLE LOVE TO HAVE IT SO. BUT WHAT WILL YOU DO IN THE END???
chapter 6: 9 Thus says the Lord of hosts: "They shall thoroughly glean as a vine the remnant of Israel; As a grape-gatherer, put your hand back into the branches." 10 To whom shall I speak and give warning, That they may hear? Indeed their ear is uncircumcised, And they cannot give heed. Behold, the word of the Lord is a reproach to them; They have no delight in it. 11 Therefore I am full of the fury of the Lord. I am weary of holding it in. "I will pour it out on the children outside, And on the assembly of young men together; For even the husband shall be taken with the wife, The aged with him who is full of days. 12 And their houses shall be turned over to others, Fields and wives together; For I will stretch out My hand Against the inhabitants of the land," says the Lord. 13 BECAUSE FROM THE LEAST OF THEM EVEN TO THE GREATEST OF THEM, EVERYONE IS GIVEN TO COVETOUSNESS; AND FROM THE PROPHET EVEN TO THE PRIEST, EVERYONE DEALS FALSELY.14 They have also healed the hurt of My people slightly, Saying, 'Peace, peace!' When there is no peace. 15 Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? No! They were not at all ashamed; Nor did they know how to blush. Therefore they shall fall among those who fall; At the time I punish them, They shall be cast down," says the Lord. 16 Thus says the Lord: "Stand in the ways and see, And ask for the old paths, where the good way is, And walk in it; Then you will find rest for your souls. But they said, 'We will not walk in it.' 17 Also, I set watchmen over you, saying, 'Listen to the sound of the trumpet!' But they said, 'We will not listen.' 18 Therefore hear, you nations, And know, O congregation, what is among them. 19 Hear, O earth! Behold, I will certainly bring calamity on this people, The fruit of their thoughts, Because they have not heeded My words, Nor My law, but rejected it."
There are also direct and shocking comparisons of Faith Movement doctrines to Gnostic beliefs, particularly the belief that man can become a "god," which is also a cornerstone, NEW AGE heresy held by Mormonism:
"The following quote chosen from a vast file of material gathered from modern T.V. evangelists proves how current Christian thought ties in with Rosicrucian (New Age) and "Manifest Sons of God". It shows how an "elitist" mentality is permeating some Christian thought:
"Your spirit, ladies and gentlemen, is God-like, he's God-like in every way . . . The second this spirit-man comes into our being, pops into our bodies, we're born again. He's spirit, what's born of the spirit is spirit. Say after me, within me is a God-man. Say it again, within me is a God-man. [congregation repeats]. Now let's say even better than that, let's say, I am a God-man (ONLY JESUS IS A GOD-MAN). When you say I am a God-man you're talking about your spirit-man Become spirit-man conscious. Become new creation conscious . . . This spirit-man within me is a God-man. Say after me, he's born of heaven, he's a super being. This spirit-man within me never makes a mistake. I do but he never. This spirit-man within me never sins, I do but he never does . . . Say after me, my body is the sinner, my spirit is the saint . . .
Say I'm born of heaven - God man. I'm a God-man. I'm a sample of Jesus. I'm a super being. Say it! Say it! Who's a super being? I walk in the realm of the supernatural. Say it! Who walks in the realm of the supernatural? . . . Say after me . . . Here's what I want you to say after me OK?
Col. 3:10 Get the knowledge, get the spirit-man renewed, get him strong, and when he's strong, he'll hold off sickness. He'll keep your body well, and brother, you want to prosper. Money will be falling on you from left, right and centre. God will begin to prosper you, for money always follows righteousness and righteous living . . .
Say after me, I hold my destiny . . . The reason many of us ask and never get is because our spirit-man isn't strong enough to give it to us. Say after me, everything I ever want is in me already."
Although this famous televangelist has since made a public statement to the effect that he has recanted much of his earlier teaching, (which ones) the mindset and receptivity among Christians toward this Gnostic philosophy is very evident. At the time of the airing of these ideas, few believers responded in the Berean-like way, comparing Hinn's ideas with Scripture. Those that did respond with justified criticism were often met with counter-criticism. The majority of listeners, already receptive to the idea of "new deeper truths", sat passively glued to the T.V. sets, absorbing yet another "deep truth" and becoming more entrenched in Gnostic philosophy. (from the book, "Strange Fire," The Rise of Gnosticism in the Church by Travers and Jewel van der Merwe @ www.ncinter.net/~ejt/strange6.htm)”
GREAT SWELLING LIES (STRANGE FIRE & PERVERSIONS) FROM THEIR OWN MOUTHS! HOW CAN ANYONE BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT THESE "MEN" SAY?????
The following are quotes of some of the leaders of the Word of Faith Movement/ Prosperity "Gospel." Examine their own words and then YOU decide if what they preach is from God or not. These quotes are self exposing and it CANNOT be said that they seem to say something that they didn't mean because they are "out of context. There is enough context to clarify the points that they are making. Their own words clearly show that they have gone way TOO FAR:
These Men think they are gods!
Kenneth Copeland: "You're all God. You don't have a God living in you; you are one! ... When I read in the Bible where God tells Moses, 'I AM,' I say, 'Yeah, I am too!'" ("The Force of Love," Tape BBC-56).
- Copeland teaches that Adam was "created in the god class"; i.e., he was a reproduction of God:
Kenneth Copeland: "He was not subordinate to God ... [but] was walking as a god with the authority of a god. ... What he said went. What he did, counted. [And when he] bowed his knee to Satan and put Satan up above him, then there wasn't anything God could do about it, because a god had placed [Satan] there" ("The Force of Love," tape #02-0028).
Paul Crouch, speaking to Kenneth Copeland, said: "Somebody said--I don't know who said it--but they claim that you Faith teachers declare that we are gods. You're a god. I'm a god. Small 'g' now, but we are the gods of this world. . . . Well, are you a god--small 'g'?" To this, Jan Crouch, referring to Copeland, enthusiastically exclaimed: "He's gonna say, 'Yes.' I love it." "Praise the Lord" program on TBN [5 February 1986]
Paul Crouch: "He [God] doesn't even draw a distinction between Himself and us. . . . You know what else that's settled, then, tonight? This hue and cry and controversy that has been spawned by the Devil to try and bring dissension within the body of Christ that we are gods. I am a little god! .. . I have His name. I'm one with Him. I'm in covenant relation. I am a little god! Critics, be gone!" "Praise the Lord" program on TBN [7 July 1986]
Benny Hinn: "When you say, 'I am a Christian, you are saying, 'I am mashiach' in the Hebrew. I am a little messiah walking on earth, in other words That is a shocking revelation.... May I say it like this? You are a little god on earth running around." "Praise-a-Thon" program on TBN [6 November 1990]
God is the "biggest failure in the bible":
Kenneth Copeland: "I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is....The biggest one is God....I mean, He lost His top-ranking, most anointed angel; the first man He ever created; the first woman He ever created; the whole earth and all the Fullness therein; a third of the angels, at least--that's a big loss, man. . . . Now, the reason you don't think of God as a failure is He never said He's a failure. And you're not a failure till you say you're one." "Praise-a-Thon" program on TBN [April 1988]
God is "kicked out of the earth and needs an invitation":
Frederick K.C. Price: "God can't do anything in this earth realm except what we, the body of Christ, allow Him to do. Now that statement is so--that's so--that's so foreign and so contrary to tradition that, like I said, if they could get their hands on me right now most evangelicals would burn me at the stake and dismember me and feed me to the crocodiles, because they'll consider that statement to be just heresy." "Ever Increasing Faith" program on TBN [1 May 1992], audiotape #PR11
Frederick K.C. Price: "Adam, as I said, gave it [the earth] away to the serpent, to the Devil. As a result of it, he got his behind kicked out of the garden. He went out of Eden, out of the garden. He began to wander around, and he has troubles from day one. Now God was out of the business. God was out of the earth realm. God had no more stock in this earth realm. No more. None at all. Nothing He could do. Not a thing in the world He could do. . . .The only way God could get back into this earth realm, He had to have an invitation. Ha-hah! He had to have an invitation. And so, God looked around--saw different men, saw Noah, saw different ones. He gave them a few instructions. They did what He said. So and so and so and so. But, finally, He got to a point where He had His plan ready for operation. And He saw a man named Abraham." "Ever Increasing Faith" program on TBN [1 May 1992], audiotape #PR11
"The Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ was not enough to atone for sin":
Paul E. Billheimer: " It was not sufficient for Christ to offer up only his physical life on the cross. His pure human spirit had to descend into hell ...His spirit must not only descend into hell, but into the lowest hell....The Father turned Him over, not only to the agony and death of Calvary, but to the satanic torturers of His pure spirit as part of the just dessert of the sin of all the race. As long as Christ was 'the essence of sin' he was at Satan's mercy in that place of torment. . . .While Christ identified with sin, Satan and the hosts of hell ruled over Him as over any lost sinner. During that seemingly endless age in the nether abyss of death, Satan did with Him as he would, and all hell was 'in carnival." "Destined for the Throne", special edition for TBN [Fort Washington, PA: Christian Literature Crusade, 1988 (orig. 1975)]. page 83-84 quoted by Jan Crouch during "Praise the Lord" program on TBN (20 August 1987).
"Jesus became one in nature with Satan"
Benny Hinn: "Jesus Christ knew the only way He would stop Satan is by becoming one in nature with him...He became one with the nature of Satan, so all those who had the nature of Satan can partake of the nature of God." "Benny Hinn" program on TBN [15 December 1990, emphasis in original]. This message, titled "The Person of Jesus" [delivered during Orlando Christian Center's Sunday morning service on 2 December 1991], comprises Part Four of Hinn's six-part series on "The Revelation of Jesus" [Orlando Christian Center, 1991], videotape #TV-292
"Jesus was a very wealthy man with a big mansion and designer clothes"
John Avanzini: "Jesus had a nice house, a big house--big enough to have company stay the night with Him at the house. Let me show you His house. Go over to John the first chapter and I'II show you His house. . . . Now, child of God, that's a house big enough to have company stay the night in. There's His house." "Believer's Voice of Victory" program on TBN [20 January 1991]
John Avanzini: "Jesus was handling big money because that treasurer He had was a thief. Now you can't tell me that a ministry with a treasurer that's a thief can operate on a few pennies. It took big money to operate that ministry because Judas was stealing out of that bag." "Praise the Lord" program on TBN [15 September 1988]
John Avanzini: "John 19 tells us that Jesus wore designer clothes. Well, what else you gonna call it? Designer clothes--that's blasphemy. No, that's what we call them today. I mean, you didn't get the stuff He wore off the rack. It wasn't a one-size-fits-all deal. No, this was custom stuff. It was the kind of a garment that kings and rich merchants wore. Kings and rich merchants wore that garment." "Believer's Voice of Victory" program on TBN [20 January 1991]
Frederick K.C. Price: "The whole point is I'm trying to get you to see--to get you out of this malaise of thinking that Jesus and the disciples were poor and then relating that to you- thinking that you, as a child of God, have to follow Jesus. The Bible says that He has left us an example that we should follow His steps. That's the reason why I drive a Rolls Royce. I'm following Jesus' steps." "Ever Increasing Faith" program on TBN (9 December 1990]
Frederick K C. Price: "The Bible says that He [Jesus] had a treasurer--a treasury (they called it "the bag"); that they had one man who was the treasurer, named Judas Iscariot; and the rascal was stealing out of the bag for three-and-a-half years and nobody knew that he was stealing. You know why? Because there was so much in it, He couldn't tell. Nobody could tell that anything was missing. If He had three oranges in the bottom of the bag and he stole two of them, don't tell me He wouldn't know that some was missing. Beside that, if Jesus didn't have anything, what do you need a treasury for? A treasury is for surplus. It's not for that which you're spending. It's only for surplus--to hold it until you need to spend it. Therefore, He must have had a whole lot that needed to be held in advance that He wasn't spending. So He must have had more than He was living on." "Ever Increasing Faith" program on TBN [23 November 1990]
"Adam was a superman and the first man on the moon":
Benny Hinn: "Adam was a super-being when God created him. I don't know whether people know this, but he was the first superman that really ever lived. First of all, the Scriptures declare clearly that he had dominion over the fowls of the air, the fish of the sea--which means he used to fly. Of course, how can he have dominion over the birds and not be able to do what they do? The word 'dominion' in the Hebrew clearly declares that if you have dominion over a subject, that you do everything that subject does. In other words, that subject, if it does something you cannot do, you don't have dominion over it. I'll prove it further. Adam not only flew, he flew to space. He was--with one thought he would be on the moon." "Praise the Lord" program on TBN [26 December 1991]
"Never, ever pray as the Bible says "Thy will be done" never":
Frederick K.C. Price: "When I first got saved they didn't tell me I could do anything. What they told me to do was that whenever I prayed I should always say, 'The will of the Lord be done.' Now, doesn't that sound humble? It does. Sounds like humility, it's really stupidity. I mean, you know, really, we insult God. I mean, we really do insult our Heavenly Father. We do; we really insult Him without even realizing it. If you have to say, 'If it be thy will' or 'Thy will be done'--if you have to say that, then you're calling God a fool because He's the One that told us to ask. . . . If God's gonna give me what He wants me to have, then it doesn't matter what 1 ask. I'm only gonna get what God wants me to have. So that's an insult to God's intelligence." "Ever Increasing Faith" program on TBN [16 November 1990]
"Jesus had no existence prior to being in the flesh":
Benny Hinn: "The Bible says the prophets spoke the Word not knowing what they were saying. But 4000 years passed when the Word became a human being and walked and talked and moved. The spoken Word became a human being. The spoken Word became flesh. The spoken Word got legs on, arms, eyes, hair, a body. And He was no longer saying, 'Thus sayeth the Lord.' He was saying, 'I say unto you.' The Word that was spoken through the lip [sic] of prophets was now walking on the seashore of Galilee "Benny Hinn" program on TBN [15 December 1990, emphasis in original]. This message, titled "The Person of Jesus" [delivered during Orlando Christian Center's Sunday morning service on 2 December 1991], comprises Part Four of Hinn's six-part series on "The Revelation of Jesus" [Orlando Christian Center, 1991], videotape #TV-292
